I’m having trouble with the "Now that the war has started, we should support the troops" attitude. I don’t hold the soliders accountable personally for the invasion, I understand the soliders role and place the blame squarely on our leaders for the direction we are taking. I don’t want the soldiers to be hurt or killed and I don’t look at them as murderers or anything like that – but I can’t support what they are doing.
I think there is a bit of a logical problem with "supporting the troops but opposing the war". If you oppose the war, then you oppose the invasion. If you oppose the invasion, you oppose the actions of the troops that are doing the invading. So if you say you oppose the war and that means you oppose the actions of the troops, what does it mean to say that you oppose the war but support the troops. What does it mean to "support" the troops and oppose their actions at the same time?
Here is an article debunking some myths on both sides of the war discussion.
Robert Elliott has dissected the President’s speech. Has anyone else noticed that the President breaks down sentances into 2-3 word chunks and delivers them very slowly without normal sentance inflection. I think this is a change his speech team made intentionally so he doesn’t make inflection mistakes while giving the speech as he did during the election campaign.
I couldn’t agree with you more…
They are just fou ollowing orders. Do you honestly think that the troops on the front lines carrying weapons are making the decisions of war? They are doing their job! Would you prefer them to be unemployed drawing welfare, which you pay for, or working drawing a paycheck, which you pay for?
I am aware that the troops are carrying out orders… I think you severely missed my point.
At some point, every person uses a phrase without realizing its literal meaning. When they talk of support for the troops, they are only assuring that they don’t hate the troops. Feeling the need to make this point is understandable, since there are always pro-war who accuse peacemakers for endangering soldiers and hating their country (every oppressive regime uses this ploy to silence critics during a time of war).
However, there is, in fact, a logical way that a person can rightfully declare support for the troops but not for the war. A soldiers job is not to perform the correct, moral, or useful action; a soldiers job is to follow orders. In the line of duty, they must be unthinking drones of the state; giving themselves to the will of Authority to be the might. A soldier contemplating the morality of war is a distracted soldier. Good or evil, if they follow orders, they have done what they ought to have done. The decision to follow orders belongs to the troops, and they should be measured by this canon. The decision to invade belongs to Authority, and they should be judged on how they use the military.
Therefore, a person can support the troops’ decision to follow orders and, simultaneously, oppose the way leaders use them.
Ratboy proposes that a way to support the troops is by praising them for carrying out orders, even if they are not “moral” or “correct.” By that logic if a soldier kills a child that posed no threat because of command, should that soldier be congratulated for listening so well? If that were the case than why did we have the Nuremberg Trails? Were not some of those men just following orders? Admittedly that is an extreme case, but it demonstrates my point. The military should be held responsible for not the whole war, but their part in it.
It’s a given, that if each soldier had his or her own agenda, the military would be chaos. I don’t oppose structure, but I do oppose turning into a machine with no conscience or regard for what hurts the reputation of one’s country or all mankind. The military should not act as “unthinking drones,” and those that are should be criticized, not commended.
Everyone in the country has a choice. If one chooses to join the military, he or she is agreeing to go to war. Therefore, if you honestly oppose a war and how it is being conducted, should you not also oppose the people that are fighting in it?
I agree that you cannot be against the invasion and support the actions of the troops. It is like supporting a mechanic who works in a garage that lies to customers and performs unecessary work on the automobiles. The mechanic is complicent in the crime if he stays.
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